I would love to compare notes with anyone who is researching 18th and 19th century Winslow families of the Maine mid coast. I am struggling to untangle the knot of 18th century Winslows who descended from Nathaniel Winslow and Elizabeth Holbrook who married in Scituate in 1701 and left Freetown, Massachusetts around 1705. The couple disappeared from the Winslow Memorial after the birth of their third daughter, Elizabeth, in 1704/5 in Freetown. After a few years digging I've tracked the family through local histories and mainly church records to Rochester, Middleboro, Gloucestor, Falmouth (ME), Scarborough (ME). Enroute to Maine they birthed more children -- Nathaniel Jr. 1708, Little Compton; Ann 1710, Rochester; Kenelm 1712, Middleboro; Elisha, 1714, Middleboro; and possibly, Mercy, Manchester 1720.
Nathaniel Sr., Nathaniel Jr., Kenelm and Elisha (what sure looks like a father and three sons) began to show up in (court records) from the wilds of Damariscotty, Newcastle, and Bristol Maine in the early 1730s. Nathaniel Sr. called himself a Physician in York and Lincoln County Deeds, as did his son Kenelm in Newcastle in the 1760s.
Nathaniel Sr., the Physician, I'm quite certain was the "Doc Winslow" killed in 1757 (Johnston, History of Ancient Sheepscot) on Loud Island; his son also "Doc" Kenelm was prominent in Newcastle town records until the late 1780s. Son Elisha I believe is the Elisha Winslow who Emma Coleman reports in her book was captured by Indians in 1758 on Matinicus Island and killed, leaving three sons (Nathaniel, Elisha and John) and maybe a daughter (Katherine). Nathaniel Jr., who I believe is my ancestor, is an elusive creature. I believe he was a Mariner who possibly lived in Salem (MA) at least during the tumult of the mid 1740s. I believe he was living in Bristol, Maine in the late 1760s and 1770s where three daughters married (Mary in 1768, Lydia in 1770, and Martha in 1776), where he witnessed Sarah Montgomery's Will in 1772, and where he died in 1776, leaving a widow, Anne or Anna.
Does any of this ring any bells or fill in any blanks?
I am a descendant of Mary Winslow who married Daniel Knight 7 Oct 1768. She died 17 mar 1820.. I am a descendant of their daughter Patty who married John Andrews. Mary and Daniel's daughter Betsey married Nathaniel Montgomery, son of John Montgomery. Daniel and John were in the same unit in the Revolutionary War.
Your information provided some great details and clues. Have you found anything since your post?
I was wondering, do you mean that Nathaniel who lived in Bristol and the father of the three daughters is the son of the physician Nathaniel Winslow.
Hi Michael ;-)
We're cousins! Lydia (Winslow) Montgomery (Mary's sister) was my 4th great-gram.
Your name is so familiar to me, I'm trying to figure out why.
Yes, I believe, based on a ton of evidence, that Dr. Nathaniel Winslow, Sr. of Newcastle circa 1730, who was murdered on Loud Island in 1758 after an Indian attack on the Winslow garrison, and his wife Elizabeth (Holbrook) Winslow of Scituate were the parents of Nathaniel Winslow, Jr., of Bristol (father of Mary Winslow Knight, Lydia Winslow Montgomery and Martha Winslow Stuard); and also the father of Kenelm and Elisha (Elijah) Winslow of Newcastle, Martha Winslow Ring of Edgecomb, and Elizabeth Winslow Gray of Wiscasset (who was also murdered during the same attack on the Winslow Farm) around 1757. I am working now to finish a 2-part article for the New England Historic Genealogical Society Register on this research which has taken the last two years. I am also midway to finishing a longer piece with more genealogical detail than Register space allows. If you would like me to send you copies of these articles when they are finished, let me know and please include a direct e-mail or snail mail address.
I would be very interested in any information and articles. email@example.com. I can imagine that you have expended a lot of energy on this research. Writing a two-part article for the Register would be enough work in itself.
I was wondering about the Nathaniel Winslow who died in Edgecomb 22 Jun 1821. He was a Major in the Revolution. He would be about the same age as Elisha's son. If so, that would be an interesting turn of events.
I am a member of NEHGS, Descendants of Scottish Prisoners of War, SAR, Mayflower Descendants.. I am UCC clergy. Would any of those connections make my name familiar?
Thanks for your research,
I remember! Methinks we corresponded maybe over Ancestry not too long ago, I suggested to you a visit to the Congregational Archives?? Does that ring a bell? I guess we were destined to meet again ;-) to discover that we are cousins.
Yes indeed, Nathaniel Winslow of Freeport/Edgecomb was the Lt. Nathaniel Winslow who shows up in the Revolution military records. He was a founder of Edgecomb, probably married Hannah Webster. I'm quite sure was Elisha's oldest son. Elisha's murder at Matinicus in 1758 was reported in Emma Coleman's tome (N.E. Captives Carried to Canada, p.289) and referred to three sons (Nathaniel, Elisha Jr., and John). Elisha's son Nathaniel was likely the Nathaniel who was abducted for about a year from a schooner at around the same time (BUT Nathaniel could also have been Elisha Sr's brother, the father of Lydia and Mary ... the older two brothers worked together and at one time owned a sloop together ... so this remains a bit murky). I'm pretty sure Elisha Jr. settled in Penobscot, I don't know what happened to the son, John. Kenelm appears for years in the Newcastle Town Records. A second bunch of Winslows (John Winslow from Scituate (married Dorothy Simmons), and cousins of the Damariscotta settlers) settled in Nobleboro after the American Revolution. Their son, yet another Nathaniel Winslow !!!!!!, built the wonderful house on Winslow Hill Road in Nobleboro.
With so many Winslows with the same names, the families have been completely confused ;-) Our Winslows must have been very severely traumatized in the 1757-8. (Are you at all familiar with the research in cross generational trauma?) When our gr-gr-gr-gr-etc. grams Mary Winslow Knight and Lydia Winslow Montgomery were quite young it looks like their grandfather, Dr. Nathaniel Sr., their Uncle Elisha, their Aunt Elizabeth and 6-9 of her children were all brutally murdered in Indian attacks.) This is pretty stunning for one family, don't you think? Almost unbelievable ... except the documents and accounts from the time lead very convincingly to that conclusion.
You have been very busy, I see, working on your genealogy!!
Oh Yes, I remember now. I was thinking that your name seemed to be attached to the Scottish prisoners of war. I haven't visited the Congregational Library yet, but will. You also have my yahoo email.
I was reading some of Ancient Sheepscot and Newcastle and N.E. Captives Carried to Canada, p.289. I can't imagine the trauma that these families endured. A documentary could be done on this brief period in Maine history. But I am not familiar with the research you mention.
I did send a biography of what I have on Nathaniel to the SAR:
Major Nathaniel Winslow b. abt. 1840 d. 22 Jul 1821 Edgecomb, Lincoln, ME.
Massachusetts Soldiers and Sailors p 474: First Lieutenant, Captain Davis’s Company, Colonel Frye’s Regiment, January 19-February 29, 1776; First Lieutenant of a Company in garrison at Boothbay, September 1-December 5, 1776; First Lieutenant, Captain McAllister’s Company, Colonel Prime’s Regiment, eight months, from April 21, 1781, at Thomaston, Maine.
New York State Historical Association Volume 17 p 424. Winslow, Nathaniel. (Died 1821, Edgecomb, ME.) Capt. in 10th Mass, Col Thomas Marshall. This Regt. Was at Ticonderoga and Sarasota.
New England Historical Genealogical Register v 25, p 189: Massachusetts 10th: Maj. Nathaniel Winslow, comd. 19 Dec 1777; d. Edgecomb, Me. 27 June 1821. Formerly Capt. in same reg’t.
No one has claimed him as an ancestor in the SAR or DAR. If you have anything else on him I could send it along. I couldn't find where he was buried. I didn't know of his wife or children. I see in the 1790 census that he had a full household.
Yes in Town register: Wiscasset, Edgecomb, Whitefield he is listed as settled there by 1774.
The massacre stories were retold in Cushman, based on a few different testimonies that were given during the 1811 Lincoln Commission ... but no connection was made between the Mrs. Gray who was killed on the Winslow Farm with her 6 kids (some accounts say 9 kids) and Dr. Nathaniel Winslow because no links between these two were mentioned in local histories, and the histories also confused Dr. Nathaniel Sr. with his son Kenelm who was also known as Dr. Kenelm after 1763 -- it's as if frontier medicine was a family vocation. Nathaniel Sr's Uncle Gilbert, a Falmouth/Yarmouth settler early 1700s was also a "Doctor", evidently got his training on the the at the Fort in Falmouth during the earlier chapters of the French-Indian Wars. Oddly, John Winslow who settled Nobleboro was also known, years after Kenelm's time, as Dr. John Winslow. Hmmm.
It's interesting that so few Lincoln County Winslow descendants seem to know they are descendants of this lost tribe of Winslows. The surname Winslow in this line seems to have "daughtered out" in Lincoln County with the third generation (children of Nathaniel Jr., Kenelm and Elisha. Nathaniel Jr's progeny (who stuck around) were Mary, Lydia and Martha and became Knights, Montgomerys and Stuards (Stuarts). Kenelm's sons (David and Ezekiel) moved to Nobleboro after the Revolution and fell on hard times, I think. His daughter Patience married David Hodgkins, Lydia married John Catland and Mary married Benjamin Speed. Elisha's son, Nathaniel/Edgecomb seems to have had mostly daughters, and possibly one son, another Nathaniel who I have yet to hunt for seriously; son Elisha Jr. moved to Penobscot and had a bunch of sons and daughters whom I have not tracked; neither have I looked for John, or the daughter Katherine who reported the massacre to the Boston newspaper. I confess that I have been obsessed with generations one and two, and haven't begun a truly systematic search for Gen 3. I've noticed that Marlene Groves' Edgecomb vital records, even though they begin in 1774, seem not to have much on Gen 3 marriage intentions and marriages ... but I haven't really taken a deep dive into this, yet. I really don't even have enough to contribute much about this branch to Maine Families 1790 Vol 12 which is being compiled now. I sent Lydia (Winslow) Montgomery and think Editor Joe Anderson has accepted her, but so far I haven't gathered enough info on any of the others.
We'll see how much of the research I've completed (tracking Nathaniel and Elizabeth Holbrook Winslow from Freetown in 1704 to Damariscotta in 1731, and then tracking their five adult children) makes it into the Register articles. The space limitations are pretty tight. Once these two articles have been published, though, maybe what's left will be of interest to one of the Maine journals?
Back to article 2 ..... ;-)
I would say in defense of Edgecomb Vital Records that for the early births, deaths, marriages, they are relying on town reports.I wish they had been more specific in those reports. I suppose that you have looked at Early Edgecomb, Maine. Compiled by Katherine Chase Owen. That is helpful, but not much on Nathaniel.. I see on the map on p. 59 his piece of land as recorded in the plan of 1815. He signed the petition of incorporation of 1774 on p. 10. I don't see him earlier than that.
Perhaps the Mayflower Quarterly would be interested. IT clears up some loose ends.
I have a Dr Benjamin Jones Porter, who was a Surgeon's mate; his grandfather Benjamin Jones, was a doctor, his uncle Nathaniel Jones, who died after exposure from the retreat from Badaduce, was a doctor. It seemed to run in families